Comments on: MySpace and Asp.Net http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/12/14/myspace-and-aspnet/ Lig's accidentally overheard ramblings on MySQL/PHP and life in general Wed, 26 May 2010 18:31:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Anthony Papillion http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/12/14/myspace-and-aspnet/comment-page-1/#comment-34028 Anthony Papillion Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:47:43 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/12/14/myspace-and-aspnet/#comment-34028 Personally, I don't think MySpace is a good example of how ASP.NET can handle scale. As anyone who's visited the MySpace website knows, the site is often very sluggish or downright unresponsive. There are frequent errors and large parts of the site are often unaccessible for hours at a time. While I'm sure ASP.NET is a capable, robust, and scalable, platform, MySpace.com is definately not the right site to use as a showcase. Granted, with 1.5 billion page hits a day, any site would be hard pressed to perform speedily all the time, but MySpace seems to have more than its share of problems. Maybe it's not ASP.NET that's the problem; maybe it's hardware or engineering. But something is definately wrong. Personally, I don’t think MySpace is a good example of how ASP.NET can handle scale. As anyone who’s visited the MySpace website knows, the site is often very sluggish or downright unresponsive. There are frequent errors and large parts of the site are often unaccessible for hours at a time. While I’m sure ASP.NET is a capable, robust, and scalable, platform, MySpace.com is definately not the right site to use as a showcase.

Granted, with 1.5 billion page hits a day, any site would be hard pressed to perform speedily all the time, but MySpace seems to have more than its share of problems. Maybe it’s not ASP.NET that’s the problem; maybe it’s hardware or engineering. But something is definately wrong.

]]> By: Charlie Arehart http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/12/14/myspace-and-aspnet/comment-page-1/#comment-33974 Charlie Arehart Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:35:28 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/12/14/myspace-and-aspnet/#comment-33974 BlueDragon is an alternative implementation of CFML (the language of ColdFusion pages), which in its .NET edition allows CFML apps to run natively on .NET. Anyone remember how Chilisoft ASP was an alternative implementation of ASP on Java? The analogy is similar but not at all the same. BD.NET runs CFML on .NET with all the power of .NET, which was the reason why MySpace chose it. See this blog entry for more: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=C7ED7F00-8772-14C6-68A1F97022CAA85B You can read other notes there about the history of the transition from CF to .NET (by way of BD.NET): World's busiest CFML-based web site switches to BlueDragon.NET (June 28 2005) http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=764C1F4A-89D7-A61A-F9F 71128027172A7 New Atlanta / MySpace Keynote at CFUNITED-05 (July 4, 2005) http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=DCE930CB-C4BB-BCD4-66A E12F14C9315A7 CFUNITED-05, MySpace, and BlueDragon.NET: 6 Weeks Later (Aug 16, 2005) http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=B9BA8353-14B9-838D-405 A9D66557C13DC The fact that MySpace (or any CF shop) can continue to run their CFML while also being on .NET is very compelling. The things to remember are that: a) just because something is written in CFML doesn't mean that it runs on ColdFusion. Indeed, there are other alternative implementations of CFML besides BlueDragon, though BD.NET is the only way to run CFML on .NET b) just because a web app is running on .NET doesn't mean that it runs ASP.NET. BlueDragon To learn more about BD.NET, and it's implementation as an HTTPHandler, see the Microsoft webcast I did (while I worked with the company that makes the product) http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/ms_webcast_part1_recording.htm You can watch the video or just view the powerpoint. Part 2 of the presentation gets into more detail of integrating CFML and .NET. I no longer work for the company (just chose to move on for personal reasons), but I do still see and show some folks the benefits of running CFML on .NET. BlueDragon is an alternative implementation of CFML (the language of ColdFusion pages), which in its .NET edition allows CFML apps to run natively on .NET. Anyone remember how Chilisoft ASP was an alternative implementation of ASP on Java? The analogy is similar but not at all the same. BD.NET runs CFML on .NET with all the power of .NET, which was the reason why MySpace chose it. See this blog entry for more:

http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=C7ED7F00-8772-14C6-68A1F97022CAA85B

You can read other notes there about the history of the transition from CF to .NET (by way of BD.NET):

World’s busiest CFML-based web site switches to BlueDragon.NET (June 28
2005)
http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=764C1F4A-89D7-A61A-F9F
71128027172A7

New Atlanta / MySpace Keynote at CFUNITED-05 (July 4, 2005)
http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=DCE930CB-C4BB-BCD4-66A
E12F14C9315A7

CFUNITED-05, MySpace, and BlueDragon.NET: 6 Weeks Later (Aug 16, 2005)
http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=B9BA8353-14B9-838D-405
A9D66557C13DC

The fact that MySpace (or any CF shop) can continue to run their CFML while also being on .NET is very compelling.

The things to remember are that:
a) just because something is written in CFML doesn’t mean that it runs on ColdFusion. Indeed, there are other alternative implementations of CFML besides BlueDragon, though BD.NET is the only way to run CFML on .NET

b) just because a web app is running on .NET doesn’t mean that it runs ASP.NET. BlueDragon

To learn more about BD.NET, and it’s implementation as an HTTPHandler, see the Microsoft webcast I did (while I worked with the company that makes the product)

http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/ms_webcast_part1_recording.htm

You can watch the video or just view the powerpoint. Part 2 of the presentation gets into more detail of integrating CFML and .NET.

I no longer work for the company (just chose to move on for personal reasons), but I do still see and show some folks the benefits of running CFML on .NET.

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