Comments on: 25 Ways to help out PHP http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/ Lig's accidentally overheard ramblings on MySQL/PHP and life in general Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:51:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: help http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-25789 help Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:08:19 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-25789 I ran across your site while just surfing around, wanted to say hi and I like the blog. I ran across your site while just surfing around, wanted to say hi and I like the blog.

]]> By: lig http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-18760 lig Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:54:19 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-18760 Sure - you just need to send the corrections to the php doc mailing list. go to http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php and join the mailing list. the will be bery happy for your help. There is also an article in this month's phparchitect by philip olson on how to help with the php manual. http://phparch.com/issue.php?mid=88 Sure – you just need to send the corrections to the php doc mailing list.

go to http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php and join the mailing list. the will be bery happy for your help. There is also an article in this month’s phparchitect by philip olson on how to help with the php manual.

http://phparch.com/issue.php?mid=88

]]> By: Ribamar FS http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-18683 Ribamar FS Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:37:02 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-18683 Hi! I want to help the eliminate errors in the manual of the PHP translate to postuguese Brasil. But I don't obtain to contactar the responsible ones for the same. I have a text with the correction suggestions. You it could help me to contactar some of them? Hi!

I want to help the eliminate errors in the manual of the PHP translate to postuguese Brasil.
But I don’t obtain to contactar the responsible ones for the same.

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]]> By: Amit http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-15348 Amit Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:26:14 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-15348 Cool Cool

]]> By: lig http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-10807 lig Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:53:54 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-10807 stefan - I intensionally chose PEAR becuase it is an offically sanctioned project. Yes there are many other projects one can help (and should), but I couldn't go listing them... and it never occured to me to say “Helping Open Source projects using PHP”. So we can make that 27. Sara - is this better or do you want it a little darker again? Thomas - I am sorry you had such a rough time of it. I have always found the PHP Community to be an extremely friendly and welcoming group. But then I first joined it knowing next to nothing and knowing how completely ignorant I was so I walked softly. I must have been pitiful since a couple of people took pity on me and have basically become my mentors. I can't thank them (zircu and lunatech) enough. The bogus bugs - well sometimes things slip through the cracks. They are overworked volunteers after all. As for the IRC - yeah they can be a bit intense/short-tempered. But then it is their playground and until you have "earned your strips" you have to play by their rules. I personally have never had a problem <u>logically</u> discussing the various features/lack of features in PHP in the IRC so don't know what to say. Maybe they were in a bad mood, maybe you had come in after someone else was trolling on the subject. Don't know. stefan – I intensionally chose PEAR becuase it is an offically sanctioned project. Yes there are many other projects one can help (and should), but I couldn’t go listing them… and it never occured to me to say “Helping Open Source projects using PHP”. So we can make that 27.

Sara – is this better or do you want it a little darker again?

Thomas – I am sorry you had such a rough time of it. I have always found the PHP Community to be an extremely friendly and welcoming group. But then I first joined it knowing next to nothing and knowing how completely ignorant I was so I walked softly. I must have been pitiful since a couple of people took pity on me and have basically become my mentors. I can’t thank them (zircu and lunatech) enough.

The bogus bugs – well sometimes things slip through the cracks. They are overworked volunteers after all. As for the IRC – yeah they can be a bit intense/short-tempered. But then it is their playground and until you have “earned your strips” you have to play by their rules. I personally have never had a problem logically discussing the various features/lack of features in PHP in the IRC so don’t know what to say. Maybe they were in a bad mood, maybe you had come in after someone else was trolling on the subject. Don’t know.

]]> By: Philip Olson http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-10805 Philip Olson Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:58:12 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-10805 Information about writing documentation for any PHP.net project, especially the PHP Manual itself, can be found around the following site (read the HOWTO!): http://doc.php.net/php/ Stefan: PHP installs PEAR by default so it being improved directly affects the PHP project unlike some random open source script that happens to be written in PHP. Nothing short-sighted here unless everything is compared to "helping promote world peace" but that wouldn't be fair ;-) Thomas: Complaining about a feature in a general PHP help channel sounds like trolling and trolls are disliked by all. And likely your complaints have been discussed before and humans get tired of hearing about it so quickly act accordingly. Humans are human. ~1100 people can comment on bugs (as Devs) all of which work independently of each other. Judging an entire community based on a tiny sample isn't fair especially when providing no real evidence. But, we digress. Information about writing documentation for any PHP.net project, especially the PHP Manual itself, can be found around the following site (read the HOWTO!):

http://doc.php.net/php/

Stefan: PHP installs PEAR by default so it being improved directly affects the PHP project unlike some random open source script that happens to be written in PHP. Nothing short-sighted here unless everything is compared to “helping promote world peace” but that wouldn’t be fair ;-)

Thomas: Complaining about a feature in a general PHP help channel sounds like trolling and trolls are disliked by all. And likely your complaints have been discussed before and humans get tired of hearing about it so quickly act accordingly. Humans are human. ~1100 people can comment on bugs (as Devs) all of which work independently of each other. Judging an entire community based on a tiny sample isn’t fair especially when providing no real evidence. But, we digress.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-10800 Thomas Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:34:04 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-10800 PHP does not seem to want any help. Anywhere you try to help you will encounter snobs. They mark your bugs as bogus or tell you it would be intended behaviour although someone else fixes them couple of weeks later. Enter an IRC-Channel and get kicked out as soon as you admit that you are unhappy with a certain feature / the lack of a certain feature. That are just 2 examples i experienced recently. The PHP world is very unfriendly in general. Especially when you are not a PHP guru. It does not matter how much experience you have with other languages. If you do not have as much knowledge as they (the snobs) have, they will hate you. By the way: your 25 ways are not really 25 ways. Most are very similar. PHP does not seem to want any help. Anywhere you try to help you will encounter snobs.
They mark your bugs as bogus or tell you it would be intended behaviour although someone else fixes them couple of weeks later.
Enter an IRC-Channel and get kicked out as soon as you admit that you are unhappy with a certain feature / the lack of a certain feature.
That are just 2 examples i experienced recently. The PHP world is very unfriendly in general. Especially when you are not a PHP guru. It does not matter how much experience you have with other languages. If you do not have as much knowledge as they (the snobs) have, they will hate you.
By the way: your 25 ways are not really 25 ways. Most are very similar.

]]> By: Sara Golemon http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-10799 Sara Golemon Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:18:05 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-10799 26) Help the unicode conversion effort ( http://php.net/~scoates/unicode/render_func_data.php ) P.S. - Use a darker font, this renders like ash on snow 26) Help the unicode conversion effort ( http://php.net/~scoates/unicode/render_func_data.php )

P.S. – Use a darker font, this renders like ash on snow

]]> By: stefan http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/comment-page-1/#comment-10792 stefan Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:49:14 +0000 http://www.khankennels.com/blog/index.php/archives/2006/08/10/25-ways-to-help-out-php/#comment-10792 Helping PEAR is a bit short-sighted I think. It should read "Helping Open Source projects using PHP". PEAR is just one of the many projects out there, and even though it's one of the official projects, it's not the best one out there (well, imho of course). Helping PEAR is a bit short-sighted I think. It should read “Helping Open Source projects using PHP”. PEAR is just one of the many projects out there, and even though it’s one of the official projects, it’s not the best one out there (well, imho of course).

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